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17 March 2009

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Beth Granter

This is really interesting... good luck with getting listed - if NM achieve all of those ten requirements that is fantastic. I find a lack of transparency (i.e. secretiveness) in the workplace really disconcerting. I find it weird that people are so private about how much they earn for example. How are we supposed to figure out if we're being paid fairly if we each only know our own salary?! I also think it's a shame how rarely 'flexible hours' is actually put into practice. It'd be great to agree a salary then choose your hours and do it pro-rata.

Malcolm Cox

Tom

A really interesting article, I have a couple of thoughts, I come from a highly regulated industry, commercial aviation, which is by definition a heirarchial organisation; individuals are approved to complete particular tasks, by virtue of training and qualification, organisations must nominate and have approved by the regulatory authorities, post holders responsible for areas of activity with an Accountable Manager ultimately responsible for that organisation. Secondally, customer expectations with regard to aircraft departure, the general public, delivery from maintenance etc, the aircraft operator, are not compatible with flexibility of working hours, given the choice nobody will work nights!

I agree with your 10 principles, however, I find them difficult to fully reconcile with a regulated service industry, I wonder how you would reconcile these challenging demands on individuals and organisations?

As a consultancy I can, and do try and practice the principles, but, trying to applying them to my clients will be more problematic!

I look forward to your thoughts.

Tom Nixon

@Beth - really interesting idea about being paid pro-rata for the hours you work. It's something I've thought about before and I know a guy who runs another agency who does this and says it works well. This would mean you could be flexible with your hours without feeling guilty, and also be paid fairly when you work overtime. I'm not quite convinced myself that it's the way to go. I think most people like the security of a regular monthly salary and take the ups and downs as part of the package (providing it works both ways.) But perhaps the solution is to offer this as a flexible employment option - you can either get paid by the hour or fixed. That could be cool.

@Malcolm I think democracy can definitely be more difficult in certain industries especially where the prevailing culture is very closed, risk averse, process-driven etc. However within the airline industry, Southwest Airlines is a great example of a democratic company. If you do some googling you could probably find out more about how they've made it work. Best of luck!

technodemocratic

great notes tom - cant wait for the future!

Roger (C&M Online PR)

Hi Tom

Nice list. Thanks. Would agree with your views on salary / pay per Beth's notes. This is a tough one. Stupid to have a lack of transparency. Fixed is also often unsupportable. Pro Rata doesn't share the risk of the business (good times and bad). Commission / royalties seems most equitable, but can encourage selfishness in some roles... What's your mix for NM?

Most interested in project management / consulting roles. These are hardest to figure out. I've tried different things in previous lives with varied success (eg, cash cow accounts get *great* service, others that could be the stars of the future *don't*, etc)...

Cheers

Roger

Tom Nixon

We don't have any commission or royalties at NM at the moment. We pay salaries and have a company-wide profit share scheme.

I agree that rewards systems are so difficult to get right. It seems there are two schools of thought:

1. At Semco (uber-democratic Brazilian company) they have a huge number of options so that each employee can tailor how they are rewarded to suit themselves.

2. The back to basics approach, focusing on non-financial motivators: interesting work; good working relationships and giving people a voice and influence within the company. I blogged about this here: http://www.tomnixon.co.uk/2008/12/reward-systems-do-not-improve-the-quality-of-work.html

My instincts tell me that No. 2 is the way forward, but we'll have to see.

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@Malcolm,

Semco had self-organizing teams, and also had assembly lines. Workers chose when to come to work: and they made the assembly line work.

Democracy, especially representative democracy, has a lot of hierarchy. A difference is that instead of managers, you have representatives who are elected. It is by, for, of the people who work there.

Done well, self-organizing teams and other features of organizational democracy make hierarchical organizations more money, more efficiently, and more happily. Instead of cogs in a machine, you have self-aware people acting proactively, still with organization.

Choice + Commitment = Freedom.

There does need to be commitment for it to be democracy.

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